Holly Wainwright

And she's made suggestions that they're like, the queen talks to her through the Corgis and all these things.

This really annoys Princess Catherine and Prince William.

Because Prince William and Princess Catherine in particular, and probably Charles, but he's not allowed to say anything, are like, she's just trying to pretend she was closer to the queen than she was.

And the corgis are like a symbol of that, that almost give her like an air of respectability, of extra touch of royalty in considering that she's had all her titles stripped.

When in actual fact,

The Queen was not the biggest fan of Ferg's.

There is famously, and I think we've got an episode of a podcast about this, famously when Fergie and Andrew were separated but still friendly, Fergie was having an affair with this Texan oil guy and she was photographed, he was photographed sucking her toes.

She told me the story.

The infamous tabloid toe-sucking incident.

into my memory as a young person.

But the truth of that is that the day that newspaper came out, Fergie was staying at Balmoral with the whole royal family and the queen.

And she had to come downstairs with all the newspapers on the table with her in her bikini getting her toes sucked by a Texan billionaire.

And the queen, by all very respectable sources' accounts, was like, get out of my castle.

And by the time the Queen died, like that relationship had been repaired to a point, but there was a lot of drama there.

So I think that William and Catherine in particular are very much like, stop pretending the Queen liked you, Fergs.

Anyway, it is also given a lot of credence, this report, by the fact that Fergie's people have responded.

Have you got that?

She was into it.

Look, just with one note that makes this story slightly more serious, as you referenced at the top of this, Claire,

Fergie has been so discredited and disgraced by the latest Epstein release, which shows that even after that, so we know what a terrible human he was, she was sending, and she said she distanced herself from him, she was sending emails calling him her supreme friend, her greatest supporter, saying, why don't you marry me already?