Hope Walz

And I think that's pretty cool.

I remember John Kerry.

OK, my parents had.

No, but like I said, he had a lasting impact on my dad's politics and they talked about him and still talk about him.

Yeah, I mean, I think we knew, like, when he decided that, you know, when he got asked and decided he was going to join the ticket, they were going to just pull up everything, even if it meant they had to lie and twist things.

And so I think we were expecting it.

I think...

that you know is a a natural kind of thing that they decide to go after so i think it was kind it was sort of expected but it still like was initially hard to deal with i'm like he was deployed when i was alive like there was an entire year where my dad was overseas um he wasn't in like combat or whatever but he was overseas um and like that

was a thing my family dealt with and to like see people attack him for that.

It was hard.

And I'm like, the man can't hear.

He had like surgery on his ears because of the military and all the stuff going off and things, but like, he still can't hear.

So like, there's like lasting effects there.

And to see people just diminish that was hard, but then you're like, you don't, I don't, these people aren't going to like you no matter what you do.

Right.

So just whatever.

Yeah, I think like the word that comes to my mind is like community.

Yeah.

In Minnesota, I've lived in the southern part of the state and then I've lived in Minneapolis and then also in St.

Paul.