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Howard Beck

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Appearances Over Time

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The Ringer NBA Show
Hitting the Panic Button on the Pistons | Real Ones

KD's 37 now.

The Ringer NBA Show
Hitting the Panic Button on the Pistons | Real Ones

It's not the same thing.

The Ringer NBA Show
Hitting the Panic Button on the Pistons | Real Ones

And when we talked about that as a phrase, as a framework, and it was true, it was while he was in his prime,

The Ringer NBA Show
Hitting the Panic Button on the Pistons | Real Ones

He was great on the Olympic teams, Team USA, great with the Warriors.

The Ringer NBA Show
Hitting the Panic Button on the Pistons | Real Ones

And he was, like how many guys with his credentials and usage rate and skillset could have joined?

The Ringer NBA Show
Hitting the Panic Button on the Pistons | Real Ones

I know it was controversial and all that shit.

The Ringer NBA Show
Hitting the Panic Button on the Pistons | Real Ones

Put that on the side.

The Ringer NBA Show
Hitting the Panic Button on the Pistons | Real Ones

How many teams of his caliber and his accomplishments

The Ringer NBA Show
Hitting the Panic Button on the Pistons | Real Ones

could have gone to a team that already had a Steph Curry and a Klay Thompson and a Draymond Green and bent the plug and play guy that he was.

The Ringer NBA Show
Hitting the Panic Button on the Pistons | Real Ones

But that was in his prime.

The Ringer NBA Show
Hitting the Panic Button on the Pistons | Real Ones

And he did it at the highest freaking level for three straight years.

The Ringer NBA Show
Hitting the Panic Button on the Pistons | Real Ones

And he won two finals and two finals MVPs and then goes down with an Achilles in the finals in 2019, a series that they might have otherwise won, right?

The Ringer NBA Show
Hitting the Panic Button on the Pistons | Real Ones

So I don't think that we retroactively change

The Ringer NBA Show
Hitting the Panic Button on the Pistons | Real Ones

that framework of how we looked at him the last few stops have been rough but i don't want to go through all the history but just real quick real quick we need to stop doing this thing where we say like oh brooklyn phoenix houston it's all worked out so badly there's like this is a whole indictment on kevin durant like you could he bears some responsibility always of course but

The Ringer NBA Show
Hitting the Panic Button on the Pistons | Real Ones

Brooklyn was complicated.

The Ringer NBA Show
Hitting the Panic Button on the Pistons | Real Ones

His first year, he was just rehabbing from an Achilles.

The Ringer NBA Show
Hitting the Panic Button on the Pistons | Real Ones

An entire season lost, and then COVID happened.

The Ringer NBA Show
Hitting the Panic Button on the Pistons | Real Ones

Second year, they get Harden, and he Harden and Kyrie...

The Ringer NBA Show
Hitting the Panic Button on the Pistons | Real Ones

Far from the, he's not plug and play or can't play.

The Ringer NBA Show
Hitting the Panic Button on the Pistons | Real Ones

They made the Eastern Conference semifinals, went to a game seven against the Milwaukee Bucks, toe on the line, shoe size, all this stuff, right?