Hunter Harris

And what would the tangible effect be on American politics?

How would you say that issue is similar or related to what we were just talking about?

Yeah.

I appreciate each of these issues for being kind of helpful guides for where we're going to go, but it dawned on me that they're also kind of all sad.

Like, they're also all like kind of doomery, like kind of look-aheads or things that could go wrong.

I want to end on maybe asking a couple things that aren't in those buckets overall.

Is there something that makes you more hopeful or inspired looking forward to 2026, 2028?

Is there something happening right now that you think is kind of cool or kind of interesting or that gets you going?

No.

Like the theft of your work is actually going to good use.

Absolutely.

Wow.

OK.

But I will say I think there is something in the way that the kind of last era has exposed the brokenness of the political system, I think, directly.

I think there's a way that people and voters have been empowered, have been kind of left behind.

with the system as bare because very clearly the unsatisfaction is too high.

Very clearly structures and parties haven't worked in people's interest.

And I feel that people's agency about that and people's motivation about that is a lot higher than 10 years ago when I was on the road starting to ask some of those questions.

I feel like they know more.

Yeah, yeah.