Hunter Hopcroft

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So this is a quote I believe from Mark Rowan, now CEO of Apollo, and it says, Our DNA going back 30 years, and even in our Drexel beginnings in the Milken School of studying balance sheets, is to find those areas where you're not compromising on credit risk, but you're willing to do something that may have a little more complexity in it, or that has a little less liquidity.
But it still has the same investment grade rating.
To me, this quote and really the story of Apollo and its various phases of growth.
Apollo is a fascinating company.
It is drawn to complexity.
But in so many ways, the growth and evolution of Apollo very much tracks the growth and evolution of financial markets generally.
And so as we go through the history of the firm, I think you're going to see these themes about a focus on balance sheet, a focus on liquidity, and an attraction to complexity that really defines the culture of the firm.
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Well I think on the highest level, Apollo is a global alternative asset manager.
It's up there with the echelons of KKR and Blackstone and others.
Today Apollo has around seven hundred and fifty billion of total AUM, five hundred and seventy billion of fee earning AUM.
That puts it second or third in terms of asset size compared to the others.
Most if you go through the supplements when alternative managers release, they break down their performance and their fee-related earnings by strategy.
And for most of the other alt managers,
They do this in an intuitive way where you have private equity, real estate, credit.
Apollo breaks theirs down a little bit differently.
They break theirs down into yield, hybrid, and equity.
And this is pretty differentiated from the other alt managers.
So yield is their largest bucket.
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