Hussein Ibish

But I was contrasting that in my mind with the problems that the US and Trump have with Israel right now, where there's disagreement about Gaza, about the ceasefire with the Houthis, about the talks with Iran. about the negotiations with Hamas. There are many irritants. Now, that's not to say the US is closer to Saudi Arabia than it is Israel. I don't think that's true.

But I was contrasting that in my mind with the problems that the US and Trump have with Israel right now, where there's disagreement about Gaza, about the ceasefire with the Houthis, about the talks with Iran. about the negotiations with Hamas. There are many irritants. Now, that's not to say the US is closer to Saudi Arabia than it is Israel. I don't think that's true.

But I was contrasting that in my mind with the problems that the US and Trump have with Israel right now, where there's disagreement about Gaza, about the ceasefire with the Houthis, about the talks with Iran. about the negotiations with Hamas. There are many irritants. Now, that's not to say the US is closer to Saudi Arabia than it is Israel. I don't think that's true.

The Israeli relationship with the US is very deeply ingrained and protected by political influence in the US, especially from evangelical Christians on the right. But yeah, I think Trump is sort of ideal in many ways from, say, a Saudi point of view.

The Israeli relationship with the US is very deeply ingrained and protected by political influence in the US, especially from evangelical Christians on the right. But yeah, I think Trump is sort of ideal in many ways from, say, a Saudi point of view.

The Israeli relationship with the US is very deeply ingrained and protected by political influence in the US, especially from evangelical Christians on the right. But yeah, I think Trump is sort of ideal in many ways from, say, a Saudi point of view.

administrations, whether they're Republican or Democrat, they do bring it up. Trump doesn't.

administrations, whether they're Republican or Democrat, they do bring it up. Trump doesn't.

administrations, whether they're Republican or Democrat, they do bring it up. Trump doesn't.

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At all.

At all.

Well, I mean, yeah, well, I mean, MBS has learned. One of the big questions about him when he was a young, rash leader in, you know, beginning in 2015 when he came in as defense minister and a quick rise to where he is now, which is head of government, that is to say he's the prime minister. Saudi Arabia. So he runs the government.

Well, I mean, yeah, well, I mean, MBS has learned. One of the big questions about him when he was a young, rash leader in, you know, beginning in 2015 when he came in as defense minister and a quick rise to where he is now, which is head of government, that is to say he's the prime minister. Saudi Arabia. So he runs the government.

Well, I mean, yeah, well, I mean, MBS has learned. One of the big questions about him when he was a young, rash leader in, you know, beginning in 2015 when he came in as defense minister and a quick rise to where he is now, which is head of government, that is to say he's the prime minister. Saudi Arabia. So he runs the government.

And human rights issues became very serious in his early years with the arrest of the dissidents, the sort of adventure in Yemen that was ill-advised and badly done, to put it mildly, and also the jailing of Important people who are not perhaps on board fully with the changes, the reforms, the social liberalization, or other concerns that MBS had about them who were jailed at the Ritz-Carlton.

And human rights issues became very serious in his early years with the arrest of the dissidents, the sort of adventure in Yemen that was ill-advised and badly done, to put it mildly, and also the jailing of Important people who are not perhaps on board fully with the changes, the reforms, the social liberalization, or other concerns that MBS had about them who were jailed at the Ritz-Carlton.

And human rights issues became very serious in his early years with the arrest of the dissidents, the sort of adventure in Yemen that was ill-advised and badly done, to put it mildly, and also the jailing of Important people who are not perhaps on board fully with the changes, the reforms, the social liberalization, or other concerns that MBS had about them who were jailed at the Ritz-Carlton.

I was coming to that. That's the big enchilada, right, for many people, including me, because he was a friend of mine for 15 years. And I, you know, I was just, I'm still scarred by it. And I think I always will be. MBS, what we've learned about him is that He's not a sociopath in the sense that he's educable.

I was coming to that. That's the big enchilada, right, for many people, including me, because he was a friend of mine for 15 years. And I, you know, I was just, I'm still scarred by it. And I think I always will be. MBS, what we've learned about him is that He's not a sociopath in the sense that he's educable.