Iain MacIntyre

Their analytics guy, their...

You know, there was a lot of change.

I just can't remember Jonathan's last name.

If you're listening, John, thank you.

Jonathan Wall was let go.

There were a couple of other significant changes.

So there was a lot of regime change the last time.

Like that regime with Rutherford and Alvin and the staff that they built was almost entirely new from the previous regimes.

And the previous regime, when Jim Benning came in with Trevor Linden, you know, they waited a year, but then they fired Lawrence Gilman and Eric Crawford and Lorne Henning.

So basically that was a new regime as well.

So we've had two now fairly broad, far-reaching regime changes.

It hasn't made the team any better.

So, again, I'm kind of open-minded to the idea that if you have really good people, you don't need to throw them out as well just because it's regime change and you want to appear to be changing everything.

Sometimes the best change is from within.

Vic, I hope you're lying down.

I know you usually are.

on your couch, but I completely agree with you.

And I think that's part of this as well.

If it turns out that Daniel and Henrik are in those senior positions, I think building the culture and having an understanding of what that culture is, is a paramount part of it because the Canucks haven't had the culture really since they retired.

And it's been kind of lurching from one crisis to another in terms of the team's identity, in terms of chemistry and culture.