Ian Bogost
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439 appearances
2 recordings
2 series
first heard Jul 2026
last heard 7 Jul
Ian Bogost’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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You know, I need to pack something away for later.
Um, I need to put something in my bag in case I get hungry.
And this immediacy of gratification is really important to me.
If you don't take it when it happens, it's kind of gone forever.
You can't hold it in reserve and come back to it later.
And so to me, the idea that you can wait for gratification to pay off, that's sort of a mistaken notion.
And the argument I would make is that not all of our sensory encounters are overindulgences.
That's kind of how we started to think about them.
That either we were engaged in like this sort of indulgent life of overeating or of sex or of drugs or of smoking or of alcohol or whatever, and that's kind of where sensory pleasure lives.
Or else we have to be ascetics and we have to withdraw and withhold our desires for those things in order that we can pursue bigger goals.
And I just don't think that's a choice that we have to make.
Yeah.
These studies were started by a psychologist named Walter Mischel in the late 1960s.
It's a very famous series of studies that were known as the marshmallow tests.
And what they do is they take preschoolers and they put them in a room alone and they have some toys.
And they say, you could play with the toys later.
I'm going to put a marshmallow or another kind of treat on a plate.
And if you wait 15 minutes until I come back, then you can have a second marshmallow.
So that was the test.
And then they did longitudinal studies over time where they tried to show that the kids who waited, who waited for the second marshmallow, had more success in life.
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