Ian Bogost
speaker
439 appearances
2 recordings
2 series
first heard Jul 2026
last heard 7 Jul
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There's always like some alternative that you can pursue.
You can take the program at the show or when I'm in line for the airplane, there's usually something I can engage with physically.
It's just something different than I would have expected previously.
And I think part of the advice I'd give to people is that when you're in an ordinary activity, especially when you feel a little bit of that loss, that sense that maybe your digital life is less gratifying than your previous one was, stay with something that's present a little longer than you would
Otherwise, I'm completely convinced that in airports, one of the reasons why the coffee lines are always so long, obviously people love coffee and they want coffee, but it's partly because they don't have a boarding pass anymore.
They're looking for something to do and something to hold, something to kind of feel alongside this strange experience that they're going through where they have to be traveling.
And if you can make that a more active experience of just staying with the space that you're in, the physical interactions that you're having, the sensory life that you're always leading, then it can help.
In a lot of ways, it's the wrong way of thinking, because you kind of tie your brain in knots, kind of going, oh my gosh, like, I need to remember that when I unload the dishwasher, that when the glasses tink against one another, that's gratifying, and I should take that in, I should notice it.
It's kind of like a recipe for disaster.
So instead, what I've done is think of it rather than as a mindset, as something in me, it's something in the world.
It's like a gift.
And if I can get myself to accept those gifts when they happen, knowing that they're always going to be available a moment later if I don't take it the last moment.
then that's really helped.
If it's not that footfall, it's the next one.
If it's not that twig that I'm crunching, it's the rock that's a quarter mile down the road.
If it's not that version of the dishwasher that I'm unloading, it's the next one.
If it's not that bite, it's the next one.
It's just a matter of understanding that this is always happening, that it's easy instead of hard, and that you can give yourself permission to feel gratified.
I really appreciate you spending some time with me.
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