Ian Bogost

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439 appearances 2 recordings 2 series first heard Jul 2026 last heard 7 Jul

Ian Bogost’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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Like, what if I made my life harder?
Ah, like, I'll stick it to technology by making my life harder again.
Like,
I think in some ways it's useful as like a provocation.
If you're like, well, what would it be like to do this the hard way so I can remind myself of the gap between easy and hard?
But you're probably not going to do that long term.
It's not really going to help you live differently.
And I don't think you have to live differently anyway.
Like I'm not saying change your life.
I'm actually saying like you can live the life you're already living.
So yeah, I mean, it's ironic in a way that my book's coming out, right, at kind of like peak friction-raxing discourse, because I think it does feel like it's the same.
But to me, they're just like polar opposites from one another.
Instead of like, make your life harder, I'm saying, do what you're already doing, but more so.
Yeah, so ASMR, these kind of YouTubers typically who make these videos, they've been around for like 10 or 15 years, and they'll whisper.
And there's a sort of like tingly sensation that some people get when they hear someone like kind of, you know, like scratch the windscreen of their microphone or tap against a bottle.
And what's interesting to me, and a lot of people use it like a sleep aids or relaxation, but what's interesting to me about ASMR creators is the way that they encourage and model focused, earnest attention to the ordinary world.
So there's an ASMR creator that I talked to for the book who has these videos about bath towels.
And she spends 20 minutes folding and smoothing bath towels.
And it's an extreme version of how you might actually pay attention to towels.
And the point is not that you're going to go spend 20 minutes with your towels, but that you have towels.
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