Ian Bremmer

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4,435 appearances 19 recordings 12 series first heard Jun 2025 last heard 1 Aug

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The Ezra Klein Show · Ian Bremmer on the Risks America Poses to the World · 2 Jun 2026 podcast

to be able to get to Disney with her kids.

And she did, and it followed how expensive it was and how difficult her experience was and how Disney, which used to be the great equalizer that everyone would go, everyone would be a part of it, and her experience compared to someone that just flies in and pays for the skip the line experience and everything else,

And so even a place like Disney, which is the magical vacation that all Americans get to come and have the same experience, has become completely stratified.

And so much of corporate America is stratifying every experience you have, not just place, literally every experience, every ball game you go to, every airline you fly on, every experience Americans have.

If you can make money out of stratification, you will do that.

and you will do much less to commodify.

And of course, the danger and the concern is that when that happens with AI, and so the people that don't pay for AI are the ones that get the ads and have substandard AI that's the for you feed, and the wealthy people can actually be super empowered and become more than human because they have AI that's giving them real information that's actively curated for them, then can help them to accomplish things that will improve their lives.

Almost every dystopian, near dystopian novel and movie in the United States right now is about some form of that shifting of America into haves and have-nots where there is no mobility between the two.

And again, it's the lack of mobility that comes down.

You can't have an American dream if you can't make it.

I grew up in the projects.

And I feel like I was the American dream, but I know how close I was to not actually making it and how kids I grew up with that were smarter than me in high school and in grammar school didn't make it.

And most of the people, and I still, I'm Facebook friends with a lot of them.

And I go back to Chelsea every once in a while.

The kids that I know in those neighborhoods now will not make it to the same degree.

That lack of ability to achieve mobility in a super stratified society, technologically enabled, capitalistically enabled, that I think is what subverts the American dream more than anything else that we've done.

And you would never even meet those people, right?

I mean, like in other words, they won't even be part of your experience because algorithmically they'll be sorted out.

So you would never date one, right?

I mean, again, 50 years ago, 30 years ago, a lot of people would meet people from different classes in their community, in their schools, in different institutions, and you got intermingling that way.

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