Ian Cherrington

Yeah, but you're right.

But what I'm getting at, I suppose, is that by trying to debate with them, you're almost entrenching them further.

They're finding more ways to defend their view.

So it can work.

I've seen it work.

I've seen that sort of approach work.

It very much depends on the type of person that's working with them.

But often it's not a good way to start because –

They're coming from a place, you know, up here.

They're at different places.

So you need to find common ground.

And often families, friends might be too close to the problem.

You know, it's not, they're not necessarily the right person.

Where it works the best, I've seen it quite a lot, is people that used to be extremists as kids,

Then they grow up perhaps and then they start to do work with younger people.

They give up their views and they give up all this life, this difficult life of extremist views.

And then they start to coach other young kids to give back and to try and pull them out of it.

And that kind of works with a sort of, I think they're able to reach them on a respect level as in they've been down the path.

And this is the way out of that path.

Does that make sense?