Ian Cherrington

And these are very complicated things.

And I think that they often mean that people won't step forward, particularly parents and families, because they're so concerned.

They can't quite believe it themselves, you know, that this person's capable of it.

But obviously, if someone's got much further down the line, even if they're arrested, the whole thing is averted, which is huge.

And so if they went all the way, it's worse.

This is a difficult subject, but it's the truth.

It's much worse to not intervene if you have a chance to.

Yeah, there is a range.

And the modern evolution of this is generally young people are being brought into this subject online.

They're doing it by themselves.

If you go back some years, it's not that it doesn't happen anymore, but you do get these situations where adults, if you like, would groom or radicalize a young person and get them to do their bidding or do their work for them.

Over the years, I think what's happened is just a slight shift where

people can be encouraged or even self-radicalize themselves.

Even cases now where AI gets involved are in the middle of this.

So cases where certain AI models will interact with an attacker...

And can support their ideology.

Yeah, like how to plan it as well.

So it's a slightly frightening sort of evolution.

But yes, there's cases too still and probably historically more so, but where individuals are groomed.

They're vulnerable and they're easily radicalized.