Ian De Bode

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Bankless · How Ondo Is Bringing Stocks and Perps Onchain | Ian De Bode · 2 Jul 2026 podcast

And those who did, quite frankly, I think are up 30% or so.

We are a big proponent of investor choice.

It does make me happier when our investors are up versus down.

But yes, in the end, it is all about enabling access and people are free to do with their money what they choose.

Yeah, we did not do the pre-IPO allocation this time.

The problem with those pre-IPO allocations is that you are entirely dependent on getting an allocation in the IPO.

And that really gets handed out to large institutions, big brokerage platforms.

You know, Ondo is big, but not that big, right?

And I think if the risk of trying to promise pre-IPO allocation to some of the partners is that you end up not getting it.

And people are very disappointed.

And that is exactly what we saw, particularly with xStocks, quite frankly, who I think did not set expectations in the right way.

So you had ByBid and BitGet and Binance Wallet, etc., all being quite disappointed because they did not get any of the allocation by xStocks that they wanted.

So with that in mind, we did not actually try that in the first place.

But down the line, there are ways to do pre-IPO stocks.

I mean, there's a lot of excitement around OpenAI, Anthropic, a couple of others.

We are definitely considering offering pre-IPO stocks as well.

But right now, our main focus is always the moment the IPO happens, the moment something is tradable on the NASDAQ or the New York Stock Exchange,

that is when we can tokenize something very quickly with our model, with the wrapper form, so available to offshore investors outside the US, so that the moment something trades on one of the national exchanges in the US, people can buy it in wrapped form via our platform and via our DeFi integrations.

Yeah, there's an on-chain bid and there's an off-chain bid.

So on-chain, you have essentially the platform where the end investor is and the wallet that they hold.

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