Ian De Bode

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Bankless · How Ondo Is Bringing Stocks and Perps Onchain | Ian De Bode · 2 Jul 2026 podcast

And then you literally just have to go on Jupiter and put in a $1 million order, check the slippage.

It would be 10% slippage on a DEX pool and 0.1% slippage via us.

No, and don't get me wrong.

I love AMM pools because they are required for weekend trading at this point, right?

So that's when an AMM pool becomes helpful.

But yeah, doing just-in-time liquidity like we do it during 24-5 market hours and overnight is really the only way to do it right.

Circle is surprisingly so the number one by a mile, actually.

Apparently, there's like trader groups in China that think it's the next Nvidia is what I was told.

It's very funny to me.

but you know people love people love the stock so they buy it micron is very popular and then obviously that would make some more sense to me yeah micron really came up other semi stocks your you know nvidia's tesla's of the world it's a bunch of the max sevens now space six is climbing very rapidly so you know the usual suspect cool okay yeah the in vogue stonks yes that's right

Yeah, increasingly you can use them as collateral wherever you want.

So if you want to use them for margin purposes or collateral purposes on our own perks platform, you can.

I'd say the DeFi ecosystem around stocks is only just developing because DeFi wasn't really built to support hundreds of assets right off the bat.

I think with crypto, you know, you could build a DeFi platform around 20 assets and you're fine, right?

If you think about Aave markets and Morpho markets, it tends to be okay.

But with stocks, before you know it, you're in the hundreds of different stocks that all have market caps of 50 billion plus, right?

So DeFi wasn't really built to incorporate the size of that asset pool, but a lot of those integrations are getting built now.

So we're starting to see some faults on Morpho, Camino, and the like.

And there's also collateral use cases now on Ondo Perks itself.

So you can use your actual tokenized stocks as collateral to open up a perk on our platform.

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