Ian Dennis

Is it my memory, though, or back in the day...

and I'm thinking sort of like 70s and 80s, toilet rolls would be thrown from the terraces.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But I mean, not in a choreographed style like that.

No, no.

And what I liked about that was, which was part of the whole Metropolitano experience, which I think you both will have had.

I certainly know you have, Ian.

It is so raw there.

I mean, that's the place to watch football in Madrid.

The Bernabeu is great, but the Metropolitano is where you really experience a proper atmosphere.

And our colleague, George Cummins, one of our producers, was saying to me the other day, he said, that's probably as close as you get to a South American stadium.

experience or atmosphere in Europe.

And I would agree with that.

It was, you know, during the course of the evening, it was, you know, what you heard there was pretty much what we had going on around us.

And the other question I've got to ask you, have you listened back to last week's episode with John Helm?

Do you know, I've not had time to do that yet.

But I am going to do that.

I'm going to break with tradition and I am going to listen to that at some stage.