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Ian Millhiser

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Today, Explained
How deportation broke the courts

You know, one of the most pointed responses we saw was from the judge who opposed the Fifth Circuit's view.

Today, Explained
How deportation broke the courts

She was the minority judge on this three-judge panel that ruled.

Today, Explained
How deportation broke the courts

Her name is Dana Douglas.

Today, Explained
How deportation broke the courts

She said in a sort of memorable line, she said, straining at a gnat, the majority swallows a camel.

Today, Explained
How deportation broke the courts

And what I think she's saying there is by sort of parsing this sort of minutiae, this sort of confusing verbiage to sort of justify the administration's view of mass detention, they've opened up this sort of Pandora's box that's going to lead to untold consequences for the country and for a lot of people that maybe they didn't intend to unleash.

Today, Explained
How deportation broke the courts

All right.

Today, Explained
How deportation broke the courts

So this was a ruling by the Fifth Circuit, which means it does not apply to the whole country.

Today, Explained
How deportation broke the courts

Right.

Today, Explained
How deportation broke the courts

The Fifth Circuit covers Texas, Louisiana and Mississippi.

Today, Explained
How deportation broke the courts

The important caveat to that, though, is enormous number of these cases are coming out in Texas because even when people are arrested in Minnesota, ISIS flying them sometimes very quickly to Texas, you know, where they have a lot of detention facilities and also they have a more favorable situation.

Today, Explained
How deportation broke the courts

judiciary.

Today, Explained
How deportation broke the courts

And so that's somewhat by design.

Today, Explained
How deportation broke the courts

And so there are a number of places, and some judges have already said, we reject the Fifth Circuit's ruling, you know, where we are, because we're not bound by the Fifth Circuit's decision.

Today, Explained
How deportation broke the courts

And so that will affect a lot of cases, but a huge number of them do come through Texas.

Today, Explained
How deportation broke the courts

At a certain point, does this become a national law?

Today, Explained
How deportation broke the courts

I guess it would have to hit the Supreme Court, right?

Today, Explained
How deportation broke the courts

Right.

Today, Explained
How deportation broke the courts

And I do expect that it will land there.

Today, Explained
How deportation broke the courts

I mean, number one, you know, not just the Fifth Circuit.

Today, Explained
How deportation broke the courts

I mean, this again, these cases have been playing out everywhere, thousands of them.