Ian Millhiser

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OK.

And does that mean you were involved in this case at the Supreme Court, Louisiana versus Calais?

And what was the vibe you got back in October?

You're like, oh, here we go.

All right.

You guys were at the Supreme Court in October defending the Voting Rights Act.

The Supreme Court, as you see it, just eviscerated a crucial component of the Voting Rights Act.

Louisiana, at least, is trying to stop an election in the middle of an election to redraw the maps.

What does the ACLU do now?

What's the plan?

What's the plan?

We're also living in a time where, let's just say, black Americans don't vote as a bloc.

We saw story after story after the 2024 election of black voters abandoning the Democrats and voting for Donald Trump.

So how are you guys at the ACLU right now thinking about these partisan gerrymanders, which end up being racial gerrymanders, which the Supreme Court saying that, you know, the United States legislatively doesn't need to protect anymore?