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Ian Millhiser

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Today, Explained
Trump’s emergency powers grab

So broadly speaking, there's three ways this could turn out. One, they could just uphold the tariffs and then the tariffs stick around, assuming that a higher court doesn't step in. The second is that they just think this wall that Trump relied on doesn't allow these particular tariffs to exist. That would be a very narrow opinion.

Today, Explained
Trump’s emergency powers grab

And I don't know that in a decision that says that would necessarily get rid of the tariffs for very long because there's other statutes, the Trade Act of 1974, which which also potentially allow Trump to impose tariffs. It would just take longer for him to do it under the Trade Act. So if they strike this down on statutory grounds, we could be back having this argument a few months from now.

Today, Explained
Trump’s emergency powers grab

And I don't know that in a decision that says that would necessarily get rid of the tariffs for very long because there's other statutes, the Trade Act of 1974, which which also potentially allow Trump to impose tariffs. It would just take longer for him to do it under the Trade Act. So if they strike this down on statutory grounds, we could be back having this argument a few months from now.

Today, Explained
Trump’s emergency powers grab

And I don't know that in a decision that says that would necessarily get rid of the tariffs for very long because there's other statutes, the Trade Act of 1974, which which also potentially allow Trump to impose tariffs. It would just take longer for him to do it under the Trade Act. So if they strike this down on statutory grounds, we could be back having this argument a few months from now.

Today, Explained
Trump’s emergency powers grab

And then the third possibility is – During the Obama and Biden administrations, a bunch of Republican judges and justices came up with very aggressive theories to limit the power of the president because they didn't want Obama and Biden doing things like canceling student loans.

Today, Explained
Trump’s emergency powers grab

And then the third possibility is – During the Obama and Biden administrations, a bunch of Republican judges and justices came up with very aggressive theories to limit the power of the president because they didn't want Obama and Biden doing things like canceling student loans.

Today, Explained
Trump’s emergency powers grab

And then the third possibility is – During the Obama and Biden administrations, a bunch of Republican judges and justices came up with very aggressive theories to limit the power of the president because they didn't want Obama and Biden doing things like canceling student loans.

Today, Explained
Trump’s emergency powers grab

And these judges could potentially take these doctrines that were created to go after Joe Biden and just apply them to Donald Trump. And if that happens, it could mean that the tariffs are gone for good. So I don't say this with any degree of certainty, but I'm like 60 to 70% sure that they're going to strike the tariffs down. They did have... You know, lots of questions for both sides.

Today, Explained
Trump’s emergency powers grab

And these judges could potentially take these doctrines that were created to go after Joe Biden and just apply them to Donald Trump. And if that happens, it could mean that the tariffs are gone for good. So I don't say this with any degree of certainty, but I'm like 60 to 70% sure that they're going to strike the tariffs down. They did have... You know, lots of questions for both sides.

Today, Explained
Trump’s emergency powers grab

And these judges could potentially take these doctrines that were created to go after Joe Biden and just apply them to Donald Trump. And if that happens, it could mean that the tariffs are gone for good. So I don't say this with any degree of certainty, but I'm like 60 to 70% sure that they're going to strike the tariffs down. They did have... You know, lots of questions for both sides.

Today, Explained
Trump’s emergency powers grab

In response to Trump's lawyer, I mean, they did not buy this argument that that's a political question. The court shouldn't be involved at all. You know, there was a lot of mockery of that question.

Today, Explained
Trump’s emergency powers grab

In response to Trump's lawyer, I mean, they did not buy this argument that that's a political question. The court shouldn't be involved at all. You know, there was a lot of mockery of that question.

Today, Explained
Trump’s emergency powers grab

In response to Trump's lawyer, I mean, they did not buy this argument that that's a political question. The court shouldn't be involved at all. You know, there was a lot of mockery of that question.

Today, Explained
Trump’s emergency powers grab

They brought up constitutional and quasi-constitutional arguments like this thing called the major questions doctrine, which essentially says that when the president tries to do something that's too big, that the court should be very skeptical of that. Trump argued that the major questions doctrine doesn't apply to him, and the judges didn't seem to buy that at all.

Today, Explained
Trump’s emergency powers grab

They brought up constitutional and quasi-constitutional arguments like this thing called the major questions doctrine, which essentially says that when the president tries to do something that's too big, that the court should be very skeptical of that. Trump argued that the major questions doctrine doesn't apply to him, and the judges didn't seem to buy that at all.

Today, Explained
Trump’s emergency powers grab

They brought up constitutional and quasi-constitutional arguments like this thing called the major questions doctrine, which essentially says that when the president tries to do something that's too big, that the court should be very skeptical of that. Trump argued that the major questions doctrine doesn't apply to him, and the judges didn't seem to buy that at all.

Today, Explained
Trump’s emergency powers grab

So, you know, it's not like they all stood up and said, verily, we three judges intend to strike down the tariffs, and you can, you know, reporters can listen to us say this and know with certainty what's going to happen. But it sounded more like the sort of hearing that the government loses in than it sounded like the kind of hearing where the government wins.

Today, Explained
Trump’s emergency powers grab

So, you know, it's not like they all stood up and said, verily, we three judges intend to strike down the tariffs, and you can, you know, reporters can listen to us say this and know with certainty what's going to happen. But it sounded more like the sort of hearing that the government loses in than it sounded like the kind of hearing where the government wins.

Today, Explained
Trump’s emergency powers grab

So, you know, it's not like they all stood up and said, verily, we three judges intend to strike down the tariffs, and you can, you know, reporters can listen to us say this and know with certainty what's going to happen. But it sounded more like the sort of hearing that the government loses in than it sounded like the kind of hearing where the government wins.

Today, Explained
Trump’s emergency powers grab

That said, I would be stunned if this doesn't go to the Supreme Court. The U.S. Court of International Trade, like, you know, these are experts on trade. I was impressed by the professionalism of the judges that I heard hearing the case yesterday. Right. But these are obscure officials.