Ilan Goldenberg

Biden administration should have done that.

I was part of the Biden administration.

It didn't do that.

I disagreed with that at the time.

I kind of evolved on that.

I will admit, I evolved on that as the war went on.

And I certainly am there now, right, where it's time to cut off some of these weapons.

So you can be just discerning and nuanced in all of this.

Yeah.

No, I think that that's true.

But I also think we need to balance that with the sort of independent voter and the non-base and majority sort of normie voter.

Right.

And I think you're right.

If you look at young people and their view on this, you know, somebody like me, I imagine somebody like you are probably roughly the same age.

Right.

We both grew up with kind of Israel of Yitzhak Rabin, which was not the – Joe Biden grew up with the Israel of – I should start with – Joe Biden grew up with the Israel of really the post-Holocaust, scrappy country, came out of essentially underdog.

And every event he would do on this always started with this story of going to Israel in 1972 in Golda Meir.

So he had –

One mentality, right?

Folks like you or I grew up with a liberal Israel that was powerful but was looking to make peace, right?