Ilana Golan

And then we'll talk about Puerto Rico because now you have this whole portfolio career.

But how do you feel like you're morphing as a leader that can steer these kind of ships?

I mean, this is a big ship.

So you touched it.

So I have to go there.

I think Richard Branson has become one of the biggest mentors in my life.

It looks like you've been around him for a long time.

You play chess with him.

Every time he sees you, he's like, damn man, chess.

That's really cute.

What do you feel are some of the things that you learned?

Because he's big on delegation.

You're right.

But what other things that you feel like you learned from somebody like him and from that level of proximity that you put yourself in?

Oh, and I love that.

And it sounds like you embed that too, because from everything I hear, even people that you guys had to lay off, now they're coming back because it's like, that's the kind of culture that you created.

And I think a lot of it is like when you are in the proximity of leaders that you appreciate and aspire to, you learn a lot even just by seeing it.

They don't need to like actually mentor you.

You just see it and you start becoming a different leader.

Do you see that too?