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Oh, I love that. And I think that thread is so important. We would hike when my kids were little. They're still teens, but we would hike for hours and we would just pick some random thing and we would make a whole story on it because we had a long time to drag. Right. So I absolutely love this.

Oh, I love that. And I think that thread is so important. We would hike when my kids were little. They're still teens, but we would hike for hours and we would just pick some random thing and we would make a whole story on it because we had a long time to drag. Right. So I absolutely love this.

Imagination is something that now in the TikTok world, when everything is just coming your way, to be able to step back and actually use curiosity, use questions, use imagination, it's just so fundamental.

Imagination is something that now in the TikTok world, when everything is just coming your way, to be able to step back and actually use curiosity, use questions, use imagination, it's just so fundamental.

Maybe one last question. If you would go back in time to your younger self, what would be something that you would tell yourself?

Maybe one last question. If you would go back in time to your younger self, what would be something that you would tell yourself?

And we actually brought a lot of the idea of experimentation from the startup world to the world of careers, because I think we never look at the career as an experiment. And I don't know why. Right. I mean, it just makes so much sense because not everybody's meant for entrepreneurship.

And we actually brought a lot of the idea of experimentation from the startup world to the world of careers, because I think we never look at the career as an experiment. And I don't know why. Right. I mean, it just makes so much sense because not everybody's meant for entrepreneurship.

Exactly. I've been watching you, been a big fan. Just amazing to see the big, audacious ideas that you have and that you're not afraid to go after them, which I think is very, very inspiring for entrepreneurs to see and to realize that, yes, it's really more about taking those steps, taking constant action, not being afraid of failure because it is about the progress.

Exactly. I've been watching you, been a big fan. Just amazing to see the big, audacious ideas that you have and that you're not afraid to go after them, which I think is very, very inspiring for entrepreneurs to see and to realize that, yes, it's really more about taking those steps, taking constant action, not being afraid of failure because it is about the progress.

So I really, really appreciate your coming and sharing all these incredible insights, Naveen.

So I really, really appreciate your coming and sharing all these incredible insights, Naveen.

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How does a shy kid with no connections in the entertainment business leap into such a career? I want you to meet Jeff Krause, the founder of IE Group, creating massive experience and events for stars, celebrities like George Clooney, Saturday Night Live, the LA Dodgers, and many, many more.

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If you've been curious about how we get into the celebrities, into events with stars, I want you to meet Jeff Krause, the founder of IE Group, creating massive experience and events for stars, celebrities like George Clooney. Oh my God, I would love to meet him one day. Saturday Night Live, the LA Dodgers, and many, many more.

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He's also the creator of Fan Room Live, which is a platform that connects fans and celebrities through virtual events. Amazing, Jeff. But how does a shy kid with no connections in the entertainment business leap into such a career? Take us back in time, Jeff.