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That's amazing. So tell me the first time that you're promoted to president or even on the way. I mean, it's a scary move. Can you share a little bit, what is the experience like? What does it mean? Because again, at that point, you guys are growing at a pace that usually it's not even normal for any normal company. What does it feel like and how do you cope? How do you learn fast enough?

That's amazing. So tell me the first time that you're promoted to president or even on the way. I mean, it's a scary move. Can you share a little bit, what is the experience like? What does it mean? Because again, at that point, you guys are growing at a pace that usually it's not even normal for any normal company. What does it feel like and how do you cope? How do you learn fast enough?

Can you share a challenge? Can you share one of those challenges?

Can you share a challenge? Can you share one of those challenges?

And I think what you're saying is so critical to organizations everywhere because it was okay to experiment. It was okay to, as long as you're doing your best and you're within integrity, it was okay to make mistakes. And I'm hearing a lot of things that are actually right now, we know they're instrumental to innovation. I don't know if we spoke that language in the 1990s necessarily.

And I think what you're saying is so critical to organizations everywhere because it was okay to experiment. It was okay to, as long as you're doing your best and you're within integrity, it was okay to make mistakes. And I'm hearing a lot of things that are actually right now, we know they're instrumental to innovation. I don't know if we spoke that language in the 1990s necessarily.

So why do you think we knew that? to experiment. Somehow your instincts already told you that this is the only way to grow and to make it so successful.

So why do you think we knew that? to experiment. Somehow your instincts already told you that this is the only way to grow and to make it so successful.

That's such an interesting point when you look at a public company and you need to live quarter for quarter, you know, instead of looking at the two, three, five year horizon and really look further.

That's such an interesting point when you look at a public company and you need to live quarter for quarter, you know, instead of looking at the two, three, five year horizon and really look further.

What do you think, Howard, is, you know, maybe something that people don't know or something that you went through that built your resilience, your attitude, and maybe your love to people as it is today?

What do you think, Howard, is, you know, maybe something that people don't know or something that you went through that built your resilience, your attitude, and maybe your love to people as it is today?

And it's incredible that you knew to find mentors at this age. So for me, it took me a long time to even admit that I need help and to not try to just persevere through everything on my own and think that if I'm asking for help, it means that I'm weak. mentors changed my life.

And it's incredible that you knew to find mentors at this age. So for me, it took me a long time to even admit that I need help and to not try to just persevere through everything on my own and think that if I'm asking for help, it means that I'm weak. mentors changed my life.

And I think for me, one of the things when somebody asked me what would be, you know, an advice to your younger self is to look for help early on. Stop trying to do it on your own. Like if somebody is walk the walk and teach you, take their hands. What would be your advice to your younger self if you look back?

And I think for me, one of the things when somebody asked me what would be, you know, an advice to your younger self is to look for help early on. Stop trying to do it on your own. Like if somebody is walk the walk and teach you, take their hands. What would be your advice to your younger self if you look back?

Wow, that is so powerful. And again, you have so much wisdom in your books, The Magic Cup, and It's Not About the Coffee, which, you know, I was hiking and listening in the audible and I was like, oh my God, I need to take notes. So I kept stopping.

Wow, that is so powerful. And again, you have so much wisdom in your books, The Magic Cup, and It's Not About the Coffee, which, you know, I was hiking and listening in the audible and I was like, oh my God, I need to take notes. So I kept stopping.

But it was just incredible, like how much knowledge and experience somebody like you have and you're just sharing it with so much honesty and authenticity that is truly inspiring, Howard. Thank you so much.

But it was just incredible, like how much knowledge and experience somebody like you have and you're just sharing it with so much honesty and authenticity that is truly inspiring, Howard. Thank you so much.