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Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research
In terms of utility, though, I think there is a thing where, you know, there is this complexity, robustness trade off, where complex things can be very useful,
Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research
But simple things are very useful in a very broad range of situations.
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Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research
And so I think one way to interpret what we are seeing is that we've got these emotions that essentially evolved mostly from our mammal ancestors and then fine-tuned a little bit while we were hominids, just a bit.
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Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research
We do have like a decent amount of social emotions though, which mammals may lack.
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Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research
but they're not very sophisticated.
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Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research
And because they're not sophisticated, they serve us so well in this very different world compared to the one that we've been living in.
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Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research
Actually, they also make mistakes.
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Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research
For example, our emotions, well, I don't know, does hunger count as an emotion?
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Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research
It's debatable, but I think, for example, our intuitive feeling of hunger
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Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research
is not succeeding in guiding us correctly in this world with an abundance of food.
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Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research
So... The thing... So here is a perspective.
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Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research
Here's a perspective that I think might be true.
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Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research
So...
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Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research
The way ML used to work is that people would just tinker with stuff and try to get interesting results.
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Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research
That's what's been going on in the past.
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Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research
Then the scaling insight arrived, right?
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Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research
Scaling laws, GPT-3, and suddenly everyone realized we should scale.
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Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research
And this is an example of how language affects thought.
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Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research
Scaling is just one word, but it's such a powerful word because it informs people what to do.
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Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research
They say, okay, let's try to scale things.