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not in a crowd listening, but sat next to him.

And there's an amazing photograph of them both sitting on a stage, on a platform, not a stage.

Yes, but my mother obviously got to know him very well to begin with, because when they arrived in India, obviously Gandhi was very, very involved in the transition.

But she's fascinating about the command of the crowd that Gandhi could hold when you had hundreds of thousands of people gather to listen to the great man speak.

My mother said you could hear a pin drop because everybody hung on what he was saying.

Well, I wondered about that.

There were loudspeakers.

If you see some of the images, you can see there are loudspeakers beyond.

But I think what my mother was trying to illustrate today is a gathering of that size would never be peaceful now.

They would be coming in protest or they'd be coming angry.

And then it was to listen and to learn and to be informed.

Yes, because it certainly, yeah, warts and all.

I have no idea.

I have no idea.

You may well be right.

But I think what is in a way, it's not admirable, certainly, but at least they were honest about their relationships and with each other.

Whereas I think today many people may still be hopping in and out of each other's beds and much less honest about it.

We're a very puritanical generation now, considering the chaos that we're causing to this world.

Yes, and I think they were a remarkable partnership.

I mean, to begin with, my grandmother...