Ira Byock
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629 appearances
3 recordings
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first heard Jun 2019
last heard Jul 2025
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And if you were unhappy or if you're
CMO or CNO were unhappy, we could help you improve that in any number of ways, in putting a program manager at your at your team's elbow so that they could use the EHR tools to the whatever we had recently tweaked and improved, uh, to education and just-in-time education about how better to start this conversation, to any number of things, how to build
for it, uh all of which we're eat trying to make the right way easy, but
without skimping at the goal of getting these in the chart.
And we continue to iterate and listen and make it easier.
Um and then, you know, I I want to get you in here, Chris, because we really outlasted a lot of the resistance, but also listened and
drew in leaders from across this seven state health system who really did believe passionately that good quality care required, you know, listening and having a conversation and documenting what the patient had decided.
tile right on the
Opening page.
nurses, social workers, even chaplains, Eric.
It all
Right.
And I thought there would be huge resistance to that.
As a as an old time doctor, I thought that's my job.
I thought that's a doctor's job.
And I really expected that we would get pushback
Remarkably, we didn't.
I think the doctors all agreed, at least what they said out loud throughout the system, that this was important, that the having goals of care conversations before you intervene in some w in somebody's health or treatments, particularly invasive, is absolutely part of quality.
It's a it uh we didn't get any pushback to that.
But then they found any number of reasons not to do it themselves or whatever.
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