Irv Grossbeck

And I said, sure, I'd be glad to.

And that sounds fine to me, even though I was extremely skeptical of the whole business.

Yeah.

I thought these two people were AAA people, and that's really what I was investing in.

But I thought their idea was close to crazy, that they were going to provide services to wireless industry customers that nobody knew much about at that time.

and they were gonna provide the same service for a fee that was being offered for nothing.

I thought, boy, these guys are gonna have to wave a magic wand to do anything, but I'll put my ante into the middle of the table and see what happens.

Yes, Paul and I were longtime friends.

We were neighbors, lived about a mile apart in Weston.

We had gotten to know each other.

I was not an investor with him, but we were good friends and we talked a lot and I had a lot of high regard for him.

And so this sounds a little self-promotional, but my understanding of the story is that Kevin and Jim sent him a FedEx package full of their PPM.

And I arranged a meeting with him and went to Boston to meet with him.

I don't know if this is true or not, but they got there and there was the package and opened on his desk.

They thought, oh, no, this is terrible.

This is just going to be a courtesy meeting.

And Paul said, well, okay, give me your story.

And they gave him the story.

And then he said, who do you have for investors?

They gave him the list of investors, which at that point included me.