Isaac Saul

So he's saying, I don't even know the guy or he's lying, which he probably is.

And then he's lying about the fact he doesn't know the guy.

But then he adds, they say the thing that he did wrong was he was one of the first people that supported a gentleman named Donald Trump for president.

So, his perspective, and somebody probably told him, the guy's a huge supporter of your presidency.

He donated money to your campaign.

He was one of your original supporters.

We should let him out.

Trump says yes.

And in pardoning him, he basically lets him off the hook for this $676 million he owed people.

It's...

I mean, that's about as egregious as it gets, you know, I pardon this guy who I don't know because he was one of my first supporters and that's what he did wrong.

And he got attacked for that.

Um, it's, it's,

I mean, yeah, it's hard to find the words really.

Thanks for having me, Tim.

Stay well.

Thanks for having me, guys.

Glad to be here.

Good to see you, dude.

Yeah, I mean, there's something happening where it feels kind of like we're under a bit of a spell and I don't really know how to explain it.