Israel Keyes

And so then what happened was, is.

The Santa Barbara D.A.

ended up indicting him so that they wouldn't go to a probable cause preliminary hearing in California.

Almost all criminal felony cases are prosecuted by way of a preliminary hearing.

They didn't want the witnesses on the stand because they knew what we would do to them.

So they didn't end run.

They indicted.

Well, when they indicted.

They indicted him on a conspiracy.

That was the first count.

Well, I took a look at that.

And I remember saying to Michael at the time, I said, hey, this conspiracy has nothing to do with you.

This was my investigation of the Arvizo family.

I'm going to end up having to testify in this case.

You need another lawyer, which is when we brought in Johnny Cochran, brought in Ben Brofman, my good buddy, Ben.

I remember that you testified once for twice that I was the one who did the investigation.

I was you couldn't blame Michael for that.

I was the one who was any so-called conspiracy, which was kind of manufactured by the prosecutor, was at my behest.

I was a witness.

And like I say, I didn't testify just once in front of Judge Melville and the jury.