Israel Keyes

I'll give you a couple of examples.

I've walked down the street.

I represented Mike Tyson for a period of time.

And I've walked from my office with Mike down to another building to do a mediation.

And I've seen what people do.

And I've walked down the street with Michael.

I've walked down the street with Colin Kaepernick.

The level of fame and what...

happens.

And, and the fact that you really can't go out your outside without stopping traffic, literally, and people kind of besieging you.

I mean, it's, it's on a level that it's really hard to capture and make people understand for certain people when they get to a certain level of fame and, and, and kind of notoriety.

I will tell you something about Adam.

I often say Adam always says that he thinks about me when he sees anything legal.

In the last six or seven years that we've done the podcast together, I've learned more about human nature.

He's a great sociologist and really kind of social or cultural anthropologist.

His observations are so spot on.

He's got such a...

He's got such a way of viewing the world that is just, you know, that you rarely come across somebody like that.

Actually, I did represent him, but we won't talk about what he do.

That's a whole different sentence.