Israel Keyes

Look, I'll go back.

We'll come full circle to McDougal again in the 90s.

I was complaining then that that was kind of, at least by the Office of Independent Counsel, a political show trial.

And guess what happened?

Then the script flipped.

And sure enough, the same thing happened 20 years later, except now it was aimed at Republicans as opposed to Democrats.

And so

There's plenty of blame to go around.

But the lesson to take away from this is the worst place in the world to try to test out your social or cultural issues is in a criminal courtroom.

That's where that should be the one sacrosanct place where we, first of all,

We have prosecutors who are making decisions that are based on justice as opposed to some other kind of calculation.

And it should not be a political calculation.

It should be a criminal justice calculation.

So.

i'm with you i share that we've got young lawyers i've got some great young lawyers and i've experienced other young lawyers who i think you know could use a dose of you know my father who was my partner for many years used to say that one of the things he thought that the criminal justice system could use is a dose of the military justice system and i'd say what do you mean and he said well in the military justice system you can be a prosecutor one day and a defense lawyer the next day

And that's a great way to kind of weed out the ideological agendas.

If you have to understand what it is to prosecute somebody and you have to understand what it is to actually defend a human being.

Exactly right.

It should be a prerequisite.

No, but I'll call you.