Ivan Barabanov

can use training tools, we can train dogs, and still be extremely concerned, actually, about ethical dog training and not accept anything abusive.

I think, I mean, I understand that it's super difficult for Europe because already the ground's been set to what is

appropriate and what is not.

However, it's based on just a false narrative, on a fairy tale.

It's really a fairy tale.

There is no, like whenever they say that they have science-based training and evidence training and so those cliche words, the evidence is never really there.

But like the sports community, especially protection sports, we are trying to educate.

Don't you think that Europeans are, just as a whole, going a little bit overboard to try to present the dog always in this very

you know, beautiful picture to where they're just the man best friend and they are all the same and they all can fit into the same style of training and that they have the same personalities.

You know, like they're dogs that, you know, they, like how we would say in English,

the one glove doesn't fit everybody, you know?

And it doesn't make, it doesn't take away ethical and moral and humane training.

It doesn't take, again, it's very interesting and we are starting to paint a picture of a dog that's, of course, there is this kind of dog

But then there is other dogs and other dogs.

And they all can be brilliant dogs, but they need a little different approach.

They just need it.

And in my opinion, it's again kind of bending to the pressure and starting to go overboard of presenting that,

dogs are not dogs basically because any dog can get a little bit aggressive uh but what is aggression is it really a bad thing you know humans have dogs since they learn how to start a fire for what for for some sort of protection protection always has been playing

a very important role into the evolution between the relationship of dog and human and so it's so deeply genetically programmed but we we start to think of it as something really bad if a dog shows that um you mean especially specific aggressions you mean

Well, yeah, yeah.