Ivan Barabanov

Why I'm smiling is because I started with a collie.

And it was from...

Again, that was way back in time in Bulgaria and they were very hardcore.

They were like some Russian line that they, you know, they stand their ground.

They, you know, they do everything.

And I actually had a female lassie that was doing everything, you know.

I just wanted to say this.

Give a reason to keep pushing.

Yeah, hopefully, I don't know.

This is a

million dollar question right yeah what i like i my honest opinion is these people will never stop they will eventually they will if if let's say they have it exactly how they want to have it and they totally shut down all protection sports in europe they're gonna go after i don't know fly ball eventually agility yeah yeah yeah maybe you have right maybe you have right

My opinion and suggestion to anybody that can have some form of influence up there is that at some point we need to stand a little bit more firm and defend instead of always backing up because we are almost clearly showing them that they have control over us at all times and

And in Europe particularly, it became so difficult.

And this is an interesting question, especially, well, it's not just the Scandinavian countries, but in Scandinavian countries, it's very, very pronounced, just as it's Austria, Switzerland.

How did it happen that at the time, like in the early 2000s, when those right,

animal rights activists and they started to push into what is okay and what is not okay and what is ethical and moral and what is inhumane and so on.

Why do the dog sport people just kind of stand back and hope that somebody else will... Like, what happened in Europe?

Like, really, what happened?

We are hoping that somebody else will take care.

What is interesting right now for me from being in the States where we started