Ivana Hughes

And nothing happened.

Like we've actually been, I mean, this is one way of looking at the history of the entire nuclear age.

So 80 years of the nuclear age is that we've been very, very lucky.

That the scenarios I'm describing, the scenario Annie Jacobson is describing, the scenario I'm describing, nuclear winter, ozone layer destruction.

There's a whole other thing, which you probably also know about, because I know you spoke with Dennis Quaid.

The electromagnetic pulse, that's another thing you could do.

Yeah.

shut down the electricity over entire countries.

Like you need like three nuclear warheads to shut down the electricity over the entire United States.

And this isn't a case where it's a blackout and we're all inconvenienced for a week.

This is like the electricity is not coming back.

So you wouldn't even need to explain

blow nuclear weapons on cities, you just need to shut down our electrical grid.

And then, you know, good luck.

The country starts.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Good luck to all of us.

Yeah, warheads being lost, warheads being dropped to the bottom of the ocean.

There are about 50 nuclear warheads at the bottom of the ocean.