Jörn "Joe" Menninger

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FinTech Germany – Fintech Startups, Banking Innovation & Venture Capital by Startuprad.io™ · E 769 — Talent Without Recycling: The European Scale-Up Question, Part 4 · 13 Aug 2026 podcast

Chrisman was direct about what needs to change. matched

I want to keep that on record. matched

Chrisman said it on Startup Radio in 2023 before the reform actually shipped, what happened next is the interesting part. matched

Employee ownership and the ASOP gap. matched

Now, here is the mechanism getting concrete. matched

And here the wording has to be precise because this is one of the most misreported statistics in European tech. matched

The historical issue was not that European employees owned less of their companies than US employees. matched

The historical issue was the size of employee options pools. matched

Index Ventures called reports. matched

Rewarding talent research from 2018 found this pattern. matched

US is a pool, the employee stock option pools that companies set aside at each founding ground typically expanded roughly 20 to 25% by the late stage, meaning by CSD. matched

European pools have historically been half that, driven largely by punitive tax. matched

Tax treatment, driven by the very dry income problem Chris Mann was talking about. matched

If issuing options creates a taxable event for your employees before they can actually sell anything, you issue fewer options. matched

That gap has been closing. matched

The not optional campaign, Index Ventures and a Coalition of European Investors, estimates late-stage European employee ownership. matched

rose from about twelve percent to about sixteen percent, moving an estimated five billion euros in value toward employees. matched

That is a campaign estimate, not an official statistic, but it's directional and it's meaningful. matched

And in Germany specifically, the um financiers, the future financing act, took effect in january twenty twenty four. matched

It deferred taxation of employee stock options to actual liquidity events, so employees no longer face tax on paper gigs. matched

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