J.C. Howard

This was Marlon's way, one of Marlon's ways in real life, processing acceptance, his own actual acceptance of his transgender child.

And like in some ways it does work, like some of them land and some of them don't.

Because in some ways they are – I think they are –

doing something deeper.

They are examining their own kind of feelings about these things, but not actually telling us exactly how they feel.

They're processing it out loud in front of us.

And I can see this movie in the shadow of those interviews.

I can see this movie in the context of those interviews.

And I see that something deeper.

However, none of it was there on the screen.

So like how much credit does this movie – yeah, exactly.

I got to review what's on the screen.

Which is why I don't defend this movie from that perspective.

I just like – this is my own therapy.

This is my way of processing it.

I don't know.

Exactly to your point, Stephen, it might as well have been a series of sketches.

This was a sketch comedy bit that like was very loosely woven together.

But when they found something that they thought they could have fun with,

I think that they showed a deep knowledge and appreciation, like people who have watched Get Out and Sinners over and over and over and over again and found something that they thought was funny and said, hey, let's put this out there and see if other people laugh.