J. Kyle Mann

But the problem is,

He's not the sort of like pliable piece.

The issue has been guards throughout the Bucs tenure.

I mean, like Giannis has been good enough to sort of like paste over those things.

The fact that you have him, he takes up some of the ball handler reps.

Drew was...

Drew was good enough.

The defensive stuff, their identity, I think, it leveled out.

The net result was them as a dominant defensive team who could score the ball.

Middleton did a lot of handling there, too.

But the issue is, who else is handling the ball now?

You've got Turner.

You've got Giannis out there.

The most common five-man lineup with Giannis and with Miles is Ryan Rollins, Kevin Porter Jr., and A.J.

Green.

That's just not good enough.

And I think that's at the end of the day, I mean, that's been the ultimate thing is that they got this piece in place, but they just haven't been able to put the, they haven't been able to surround those two with the appropriate talent.

Yeah.

I mean, we'll look at it from, I mean, we were talking about, it kind of is tough to imagine from all sides.

I mean, if you're the Pacers, do you do this again?