J-Mac (Jason McIntyre)

So he's the one starting the offense.

He's obviously scoring when he gets his driving opportunities.

He's finishing at a higher clip.

And then I think because he's playing so well offensively and he feels like he's a part of it, that he's buying in on the defensive end.

And that's a big difference in this team right now.

Well, I definitely had to just go from the standpoint of like, you know, playing this type of basketball, playing this deep into the season.

I had to be my Indiana pace of years.

Right.

When I first came in the league, my second year, we went to the finals and we played against, you know, Kobe and Shaq.

And that was their first championship.

And I was on a super veteran team.

Right.

And that team, to your point, you know, you just never felt like you was out of it.

Right.

And no matter what circumstance happened throughout the game, you always felt like you knew how to get out of it.

Then you fast forward to two years later when, you know, we were a younger team where Reggie Miller was our only vet on the team, but it was myself, Ron Artest, Jermaine O'Neal, Jamal Tinsley, and we were a younger team.

And there was times when we were in series and we would kind of doubt ourselves.

You know what I'm saying?

Just because we were young, we hadn't been through enough at that point.

And I think that's what's happening with the Spurs, right?