Jack Barsky
๐ค SpeakerAppearances Over Time
Podcast Appearances
Where was the ideological shift?
Because now you're an American and you seem to like America a lot.
Yeah, well, it was a what I call a slow decontamination.
The first thing that I realized was that capitalism isn't really as oppressive anymore.
to the workers, as I thought, because when I started working for MetLife as a programmer, it was a nice place and they treated us well.
We got free lunch.
Other than like, you know, bad bosses and, and, and,
not very nice coworkers, I couldn't find, institutional evil wasn't there.
But when I resigned from the KGB, I put in my letter explicitly, I will not betray the cause, I will not betray my motherland, East Germany, and I meant that.
And, you know, and then I had a career.
I developed my version of the American dream.
It wasn't ideological, but it was like, you know, I liked it here, you know.
And I became what they wanted me to become, a real American.
You know, I led a normal life.
At one point, I became a professional.
I worked as a computer programmer.
And, you know, if you're a young man, you have some... You know, your hormones are still there, right?
Your job is inherently lonely as hell.