Jack Carr

But it's a lot more.

And I think that's Ray Porter.

I mean, he's incredible.

He's really good.

Fantastic.

Such a good human being, too.

We use his voice in Dark Will for those listening.

They'll be able to recognize his voice in there.

Yep.

That's a tough one for any guy.

I gave him a tough one in this one, too.

I have a guy who's actually based on a real person.

In the book, he lives in real life.

He died in, I think, 1965.

But it was a Finnish officer who got the, whatever the Finnish cross is, it's in the book, I forget exactly what it is, but then fought for the Germans and got like the German Mannheim cross or something.

And then

After World War II, they tried to grab a bunch of people who had experience in essentially Eastern Europe to bring over to our military so that we would have experience if we went to war with the Soviets.

And so they brought all these guys in into the military.

And so then he gets a Bronze Star in the United States Military Army Special Forces.

His helicopter went down, I think it was 1965, but he was part of MACV SOG.