Jack Clark

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Hard Fork · The Ezra Klein Show: How Fast Will A.I. Agents Rip Through the Economy? · 27 Mar 2026 podcast

And it's going to change the hiring plans of companies.

So as a cohort, you might see fewer job openings for entry-level jobs.

That would be one naive expectation out of all of this.

And my guess is that that would be happening elsewhere, of course.

And one thing we see is that there is a certain type of young person that has just lived and breathed AI for several years now.

We hire them.

They're excellent, and they think in entirely new ways about basically how to get Claude to work for them.

It's like kids who grew up on the internet.

They were naturally versed in it in a way that many people in the organizations they were coming into weren't.

So figuring out how to teach that basic experimental mindset and curiosity about these systems and to encourage it is going to be really important.

People that spend a lot of time playing around with this stuff will develop very valuable intuitions and they will come into organizations and be able to be extremely productive.

At the same time, we're going to have to figure out what artisanal skills we want to almost develop maybe a guild-style philosophy of maintaining human excellence in and how organizations choose how to teach those skills.

Okay, then what about all those people in the middle of that?

Things move slowly in the real economy outside Silicon Valley.

I think that we often look at software engineering and think that this is a proxy for how the rest of the economy works, but it's often not.

It's often a disanalogy.

Organizations will move people around to where the AI systems don't yet work.

And I think that you won't see vast, immediate changes in the makeup of employment unless

But you will see significant changes in the types of work people are being asked to do.

And the organizations which are best at sort of moving their people around are going to be extremely effective.

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