Jack Clark

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Hard Fork · The Ezra Klein Show: How Fast Will A.I. Agents Rip Through the Economy? · 27 Mar 2026 podcast

The capabilities that you predicted and some of the risks that you predicted are showing up roughly on schedule, which means that you ask the question, well, what if this keeps working?

And maybe we'll get to that later.

It also highlights to us that

where you can exercise intention about these systems, you should be extremely intentional and extremely public about what you're doing.

So we recently published a so-called constitution for our AI system, CLAWD.

And it's almost like a document that, you know, Dario, our CEO, compared to a letter that a parent might write to a child that they should, you know, open when they're older.

So here's how we want you to behave in the world.

Here's some knowledge about the world, deeply kind of subtle things that relate to the normative behaviors we'd hope,

to see in these kind of ai systems and we published that our belief is that as people build and deploy these agents you can be intentional about the characteristics that they will display and by doing that you'll both make them more kind of helpful and useful to people but also you have a chance to kind of steer the agent into good directions and i think this makes intuitive sense if you're

Personality programming for an agent was a long document saying, you're a villain that only wants to harm humanity.

Your job is to lie, cheat, and steal and hack into things.

You probably wouldn't be surprised if the AI agent did a load of hacking and was generally unpleasant to deal with.

So we can take the other side and say, what would we like a high-quality entity to kind of look like?

Yeah, so this morning, a colleague of mine said, hey, I want to take a piece of technology we have called Clawed Interviewer, which is a system where we can get claws to interview people, and we use it for a range of social science bits of research.

He wants to extend it in some way that involves touching another part of Anthropic's infrastructure.

He slacked a colleague who owns that bit of infrastructure and said, hey, I want to do this thing.

Let's meet tomorrow.

And the guy said, absolutely.

Here are the five software packages you should have Claude read before our meeting and summarize for you.

And I think that's a really good illustration where this gnarly engineering project, which would previously have taken a lot longer and many people, is now going to mostly be done by two people agreeing on the goal and having their clords read some documentation and agree on how to implement the thing.

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