Jack Clark

And then you make a lot of money and we sit around in Europe

hoping that you're going to feel that you've made so much money that eventually you're going to, in the way that I'm sure Donald Trump would love to, share generously with the rest of the world the proceeds of your wealth.

What have you learned over the course of the years debating this stuff about what is productive and what isn't productive in these conversations?

One of the things that worries me sometimes if I talk about safety to someone like you who's been doing this for 10 years,

as you've heard it all before, your mind will be closed on certain kinds of arguments.

And, you know, somebody will say, you know, how about the bioweapon that's going to blow up the world?

And you're going to be like, oh, for goodness sake, not again.

I've been talking about this for 10 years.

And here's my answer.

Where do you begin to feel the conversation is a bit...

dead and inert?

And where do you feel the really live questions are?

We love the teaching sand to think.

Thank you.

Thank you.

And look forward to speaking again soon.

Absolutely.

We will be talking soon anyway in other setups.

But thank you.

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