Jack Mesley

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638 appearances 6 recordings 3 series first heard Apr 2026 last heard 4 Jun

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Aotearoa Rugby Pod · Rugby’s Next Step — And How Fans Can Shape It · 21 Apr 2026 podcast

I guess the balance to that is that we do need to make sure that our players are going to step into a black jersey or a gold jersey.

Um, or, or a white Jersey with the drawer and, and not have too much change so that they can go out there and win because, you know, yeah, w w we want that too.

You know, if, if I had my way with, uh, w all of the nations that we represent, we'll be doing bloody well in, in world cup in, in Australia in 27.

So we've got to get that right.

And, and, and also we know.

that fans, you know, whilst they want innovation in Super Rugby Pacific, they don't want too much because keeping up with law change is really difficult.

And the further you are away from the game, if you're not a real code head, it's really difficult to rock up.

And, you know, the amount of times I've sat in the stadium and someone's gone,

Not straight.

And then I'm sort of turning around trying to explain, you know, what have we done over the last year to make sure that that uncontested line out that's not straight.

People understand that, right?

And so it does take time.

So we've got to get those things right in the right balance.

But world rugby have been great.

You know, there's no doubt that some nations that dominate certain aspects of the game want those aspects of the game protected at all costs.

And that's fair enough.

I guess our kind of rhetoric and our push is regardless of what, you know, your national team looks like at this point in time, we can all learn lots from fans and we're willing to try some things down here in super rugby and all of the leagues in the world can benefit from that learning.

They don't have to adopt what we've done, but they can learn from it if they like.

And, you know, that's our kind of our position to world rugby and to the other leagues.

If a coach and a club wanted to play a certain way, you beauty, you know, we want all styles of how you play this great game and how you compete in that contest.

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