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Jack Recider

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Darknet Diaries
143: Jim Hates Scams

Okay, but this story doesn't start with an inbound phone call. Instead, someone told Jim about a Malvert. This is an ad on a website which has malware on it. Basically, if you went to a website, you would hear this.

Darknet Diaries
143: Jim Hates Scams

Okay, but this story doesn't start with an inbound phone call. Instead, someone told Jim about a Malvert. This is an ad on a website which has malware on it. Basically, if you went to a website, you would hear this.

Darknet Diaries
143: Jim Hates Scams

Now this was just an ad on a website, but it had some malicious JavaScript in it, which maximized the browser, showed this giant warning, played this audio on repeat, and then made the mouse disappear, which made it seem like the screen was frozen. It's not actually a virus, though. You can just tap on Control-Alt-Delete and close the browser, and all is fine.

Darknet Diaries
143: Jim Hates Scams

Now this was just an ad on a website, but it had some malicious JavaScript in it, which maximized the browser, showed this giant warning, played this audio on repeat, and then made the mouse disappear, which made it seem like the screen was frozen. It's not actually a virus, though. You can just tap on Control-Alt-Delete and close the browser, and all is fine.

Darknet Diaries
143: Jim Hates Scams

But to someone who doesn't know better, this could be scary, and they might call the number to get help. So Jim called the number and said that his computer's infected, and the scammers immediately tried gaining remote access to Jim's computer and tried to scam him for money. So that means, in Jim's mind, they crossed the line, and it was time for him to try to hack them back.

Darknet Diaries
143: Jim Hates Scams

But to someone who doesn't know better, this could be scary, and they might call the number to get help. So Jim called the number and said that his computer's infected, and the scammers immediately tried gaining remote access to Jim's computer and tried to scam him for money. So that means, in Jim's mind, they crossed the line, and it was time for him to try to hack them back.

Darknet Diaries
143: Jim Hates Scams

Okay, so he got into a supervisor's PC in a scam call center. But then from there was able to get into the CCTV system. Now this scam call center had a lot of cameras. The supervisor could watch all the scammers do their calls and go on break and go outside. And there was even a camera in the boss's office. But that wasn't it. The supervisor also had the ability to listen in on the calls.

Darknet Diaries
143: Jim Hates Scams

Okay, so he got into a supervisor's PC in a scam call center. But then from there was able to get into the CCTV system. Now this scam call center had a lot of cameras. The supervisor could watch all the scammers do their calls and go on break and go outside. And there was even a camera in the boss's office. But that wasn't it. The supervisor also had the ability to listen in on the calls.

Darknet Diaries
143: Jim Hates Scams

In fact, all these calls were being recorded with some software.

Darknet Diaries
143: Jim Hates Scams

In fact, all these calls were being recorded with some software.

Darknet Diaries
143: Jim Hates Scams

Holy moly, 70,000 calls. And this is a much bigger operation than I thought. But Jim started going through this and was able to match up some of the time codes of the CCTV footage and the recorded calls and could essentially watch the scammers as they called these victims and listen in on the calls.

Darknet Diaries
143: Jim Hates Scams

Holy moly, 70,000 calls. And this is a much bigger operation than I thought. But Jim started going through this and was able to match up some of the time codes of the CCTV footage and the recorded calls and could essentially watch the scammers as they called these victims and listen in on the calls.

Darknet Diaries
143: Jim Hates Scams

It's quite fascinating to watch because sometimes the scammers are like playing video games or looking bored. But this also means he's starting to identify what they look like. Where their desk is, where they sit in the room, and how this operation looks from the inside.

Darknet Diaries
143: Jim Hates Scams

It's quite fascinating to watch because sometimes the scammers are like playing video games or looking bored. But this also means he's starting to identify what they look like. Where their desk is, where they sit in the room, and how this operation looks from the inside.

Darknet Diaries
143: Jim Hates Scams

On top of that, on the supervisor's PC, there was a list of victims, which included the amount that was stolen from everyone and their names. It was quite a find. And just imagine having this access, being in Jim's position... I mean, if I was in that position, I'd just, like, put the computer down and take a walk around the lake or something like that, right? Like, what do you do?

Darknet Diaries
143: Jim Hates Scams

On top of that, on the supervisor's PC, there was a list of victims, which included the amount that was stolen from everyone and their names. It was quite a find. And just imagine having this access, being in Jim's position... I mean, if I was in that position, I'd just, like, put the computer down and take a walk around the lake or something like that, right? Like, what do you do?

Darknet Diaries
143: Jim Hates Scams

What do you do with all this? Like, he would open up his computer in the morning and would have live cameras of this scam call center on one monitor watching everything that was going on. And then on the other monitor, he could tap into the phone calls and listen to them live as they were trying to scam victims.

Darknet Diaries
143: Jim Hates Scams

What do you do with all this? Like, he would open up his computer in the morning and would have live cameras of this scam call center on one monitor watching everything that was going on. And then on the other monitor, he could tap into the phone calls and listen to them live as they were trying to scam victims.

Darknet Diaries
143: Jim Hates Scams

He pretty much had full supervisor access to this whole scam call center and could watch and listen to anything. But what do you do with that access? Like, it's really tempting to just call him up and be like, hey, hey, I can see you, scammer. I can see you wearing a hat and playing video games. I gotcha.

Darknet Diaries
143: Jim Hates Scams

He pretty much had full supervisor access to this whole scam call center and could watch and listen to anything. But what do you do with that access? Like, it's really tempting to just call him up and be like, hey, hey, I can see you, scammer. I can see you wearing a hat and playing video games. I gotcha.