Jack Recider

Yeah, and I mean, 70,000 calls with a whole list of victims here. Yeah. this is too much for one person to process all. So what did you end up doing with this access?

Yeah, and I mean, 70,000 calls with a whole list of victims here. Yeah. this is too much for one person to process all. So what did you end up doing with this access?

The BBC has more resources than Jim. They can parse through this massive trove of data quicker and started putting pieces together even more. And together they built quite a detailed understanding of this whole scam operation. They figured out the name of the company, its address, who owns it, the employees who work there, and the victims, and how much money this whole place was making.

The BBC has more resources than Jim. They can parse through this massive trove of data quicker and started putting pieces together even more. And together they built quite a detailed understanding of this whole scam operation. They figured out the name of the company, its address, who owns it, the employees who work there, and the victims, and how much money this whole place was making.

And again, it was all clearly documented with the video footage and the recorded calls and the files that they got from that supervisor's computer. They had a ton.

And again, it was all clearly documented with the video footage and the recorded calls and the files that they got from that supervisor's computer. They had a ton.

Well, with all this proof, it was time to learn who is leading this operation.

Well, with all this proof, it was time to learn who is leading this operation.

Okay, this is super interesting. There was a CCTV camera inside Amit's office, the head boss of this whole thing. And it's the only camera that actually had sound on. And so there's hundreds of hours of him talking on the phone and having meetings with people. And in those meetings, he's scheming up new ways to scam people and basically admitting to all this criminal activity on camera.

Okay, this is super interesting. There was a CCTV camera inside Amit's office, the head boss of this whole thing. And it's the only camera that actually had sound on. And so there's hundreds of hours of him talking on the phone and having meetings with people. And in those meetings, he's scheming up new ways to scam people and basically admitting to all this criminal activity on camera.

It's extraordinary. Well, with all this evidence in hand, the BBC reporter went to India to try to meet with him.

It's extraordinary. Well, with all this evidence in hand, the BBC reporter went to India to try to meet with him.

Well, it was true. There was no such criminal case against him. So the BBC reporter went to the police and asked, hey, why don't you crack down on these scam call centers more seriously?

Well, it was true. There was no such criminal case against him. So the BBC reporter went to the police and asked, hey, why don't you crack down on these scam call centers more seriously?

Well, in this particular case, they did have victims, and the BBC recorded the victims' testimony to hear how they got scammed. So when the BBC published this story, and when Jim published his YouTube videos, it couldn't be ignored by the police. They had victims, they had evidence, they had the address, they had the name of the boss. It was a very easy case to process.

Well, in this particular case, they did have victims, and the BBC recorded the victims' testimony to hear how they got scammed. So when the BBC published this story, and when Jim published his YouTube videos, it couldn't be ignored by the police. They had victims, they had evidence, they had the address, they had the name of the boss. It was a very easy case to process.

So the Indian police raided the scam center.

So the Indian police raided the scam center.

That's disappointing. Indian authorities. seem to not care about scam centers there. It's illegal, but they say they can't prosecute unless they have the victims, and since the victims are far away in another country, they just don't have enough evidence.

That's disappointing. Indian authorities. seem to not care about scam centers there. It's illegal, but they say they can't prosecute unless they have the victims, and since the victims are far away in another country, they just don't have enough evidence.