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Jack Recider

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Darknet Diaries
143: Jim Hates Scams

What do you do with all this? Like, he would open up his computer in the morning and would have live cameras of this scam call center on one monitor watching everything that was going on. And then on the other monitor, he could tap into the phone calls and listen to them live as they were trying to scam victims.

Darknet Diaries
143: Jim Hates Scams

He pretty much had full supervisor access to this whole scam call center and could watch and listen to anything. But what do you do with that access? Like, it's really tempting to just call him up and be like, hey, hey, I can see you, scammer. I can see you wearing a hat and playing video games. I gotcha.

Darknet Diaries
143: Jim Hates Scams

He pretty much had full supervisor access to this whole scam call center and could watch and listen to anything. But what do you do with that access? Like, it's really tempting to just call him up and be like, hey, hey, I can see you, scammer. I can see you wearing a hat and playing video games. I gotcha.

Darknet Diaries
143: Jim Hates Scams

Yeah, and I mean, 70,000 calls with a whole list of victims here. Yeah. this is too much for one person to process all. So what did you end up doing with this access?

Darknet Diaries
143: Jim Hates Scams

Yeah, and I mean, 70,000 calls with a whole list of victims here. Yeah. this is too much for one person to process all. So what did you end up doing with this access?

Darknet Diaries
143: Jim Hates Scams

The BBC has more resources than Jim. They can parse through this massive trove of data quicker and started putting pieces together even more. And together they built quite a detailed understanding of this whole scam operation. They figured out the name of the company, its address, who owns it, the employees who work there, and the victims, and how much money this whole place was making.

Darknet Diaries
143: Jim Hates Scams

The BBC has more resources than Jim. They can parse through this massive trove of data quicker and started putting pieces together even more. And together they built quite a detailed understanding of this whole scam operation. They figured out the name of the company, its address, who owns it, the employees who work there, and the victims, and how much money this whole place was making.

Darknet Diaries
143: Jim Hates Scams

And again, it was all clearly documented with the video footage and the recorded calls and the files that they got from that supervisor's computer. They had a ton.

Darknet Diaries
143: Jim Hates Scams

And again, it was all clearly documented with the video footage and the recorded calls and the files that they got from that supervisor's computer. They had a ton.

Darknet Diaries
143: Jim Hates Scams

Well, with all this proof, it was time to learn who is leading this operation.

Darknet Diaries
143: Jim Hates Scams

Well, with all this proof, it was time to learn who is leading this operation.

Darknet Diaries
143: Jim Hates Scams

Okay, this is super interesting. There was a CCTV camera inside Amit's office, the head boss of this whole thing. And it's the only camera that actually had sound on. And so there's hundreds of hours of him talking on the phone and having meetings with people. And in those meetings, he's scheming up new ways to scam people and basically admitting to all this criminal activity on camera.

Darknet Diaries
143: Jim Hates Scams

Okay, this is super interesting. There was a CCTV camera inside Amit's office, the head boss of this whole thing. And it's the only camera that actually had sound on. And so there's hundreds of hours of him talking on the phone and having meetings with people. And in those meetings, he's scheming up new ways to scam people and basically admitting to all this criminal activity on camera.

Darknet Diaries
143: Jim Hates Scams

It's extraordinary. Well, with all this evidence in hand, the BBC reporter went to India to try to meet with him.

Darknet Diaries
143: Jim Hates Scams

It's extraordinary. Well, with all this evidence in hand, the BBC reporter went to India to try to meet with him.

Darknet Diaries
143: Jim Hates Scams

Well, it was true. There was no such criminal case against him. So the BBC reporter went to the police and asked, hey, why don't you crack down on these scam call centers more seriously?

Darknet Diaries
143: Jim Hates Scams

Well, it was true. There was no such criminal case against him. So the BBC reporter went to the police and asked, hey, why don't you crack down on these scam call centers more seriously?

Darknet Diaries
143: Jim Hates Scams

Well, in this particular case, they did have victims, and the BBC recorded the victims' testimony to hear how they got scammed. So when the BBC published this story, and when Jim published his YouTube videos, it couldn't be ignored by the police. They had victims, they had evidence, they had the address, they had the name of the boss. It was a very easy case to process.

Darknet Diaries
143: Jim Hates Scams

Well, in this particular case, they did have victims, and the BBC recorded the victims' testimony to hear how they got scammed. So when the BBC published this story, and when Jim published his YouTube videos, it couldn't be ignored by the police. They had victims, they had evidence, they had the address, they had the name of the boss. It was a very easy case to process.

Darknet Diaries
143: Jim Hates Scams

So the Indian police raided the scam center.