Jack Tame

Hunter virus.

I mean, I just think you just have to... Frack the West Coast?

I mean, yeah, I think you've got to bring people back and you've got to have policies that make young people feel like they've got a more prosperous life here.

But I always feel like we're an old... Australia feels like a young country.

Yeah, that's a very good, very astute point.

I just think Australians are better at celebrating.

Yeah.

Full stop.

They're better at... I mean, it's the same stuff that makes us think that they're kind of arrogant and headstrong and that there are other qualities where...

That might not seem as attractive, but I think you have hit on something.

I think they do feel like they're a bit more celebratory of their nation and culture.

I also think there are components of our shared history, as in New Zealand's shared history, between –

Māori in the crown versus indigenous Australians in the crown.

It's a pretty – Massive difference.

I mean, it's about as distinct as it gets.

So there is stuff like that where you think, well, it's a no-brainer as to where I'd rather be and what country I'd rather be associated with.

But, yeah, I mean, it's – I mean, I don't know about you guys.

I think about it a lot.

I think about – if I was in a different stage in life, yeah.

I think there are a lot of attractive things.