Jackson Johns

Yeah, you can't pin that on him.

Yeah, 100%.

The hard thing with that is, just looking around the league at the moment, there isn't, I agree with you, but there is not many getting around.

There's a lot of workhorse nines getting around the comp.

But in terms of creativity, and a lot of those creative guys like Appy are smaller, smaller bodies, whether throughout the junior leagues or throughout the lower levels of the competition, or rugby league, sorry, whether they're getting burnt out and they're not actually coming through because of the fact that they are creative, they're out there getting out, they're smaller bodies, that might be... Because I see a lot of 13s at the moment being pushed towards the nine position, and whether that's because...

They're the only ones that are sort of making it through the gate at the end of every development season.

I don't know, but there's just not that many creative hookers getting around at the moment.

It's better off if you're like in a pathway system, it's almost like you're better off just investing in multiple hookers and not expecting to have an 80 minute hooker ever throughout all your grade, just trying to make sure you even up the workload for them.

yeah mine's a bit different um not for a good reason it's uh my missus sends me a lot of cat stuff so um my feed's filled with cats um it's weird how you get sent one or two things um i also get the preachers that do their reels you know the preachers do their reels about you know um this is a piece of paper this paper isn't good unless it's got the hand of god on it and

Yes, yes.

I don't mind it.

You seem pretty, you seem pretty...

Solid album.

I don't mind it at all.

See, I'm a nothing was the same guy.

Great, great album.

With Hold On, I'm Coming Home.

Oh, yeah.

That was a gun.

That was a gun album.