Jacob Savage

most out there, uh, you know, like, like, uh, like a, a friend of mine who's a black woman was on a TV writer on a show.

And she told me that this other writer, this white woman came up to her and told her that she wanted her, you know, she was trying to make sure her toddler sons like didn't grow up to be toxic white men.

And this woman was like, that is the craziest thing I ever heard.

They're, they're like innocent little children.

But, uh,

um i think you're seeing less of that um i think you're seeing less of this sort of um you know but i you know i i just want them to grow up in a world in which you know they can i'm more concerned about ai and all this other stuff for them and for the future than i am about this identity stuff i hope it will work itself out um decently uh but

And I'm more concerned about the fact that kids all have Chromebooks in California in kindergarten than I am with the... Maybe with what they're teaching.

I think that I can teach them what they need to know, but not if they're on their Chromebook all day.

I know my, my hope is that it, that it works itself out at least, um, that there's more room for like actual political difference and, um, less identitarian, uh,

issues as they as they grow up because like the truth is we live in what you know whether you like it or not whether you think you know you know immigration should have been stopped in 1965 or 1925 or 1880 like we're all here and it has to work and the only way to make it work is to you know

is to, is to work together as a, as a political entity to, to make it work.

What's my lowest moment?

there was a moment i was at a party and um i was told that you know there were a couple of women who had gotten these tv jobs sort of purely by virtue of of canceling this i'm not going to say names of canceling this this other guy um and it just made me and i had been banging my head against the wall to try to get a job for you know five or six years at that point and i was um

I was just super upset.

I think what I would tell myself is to pivot.

I would tell myself to stop.

If you're banging your head against the wall that much, if it makes you that upset, find something that doesn't.

Um, you can still be upset about the sort of general sociopolitical environment, but stop banging your, there's no, there's no reason, stop banging your head against the wall because, and find, uh, some other path that lets you, uh, either be creative or financially successful.

Um, think outside the box of what you, um,

All right.