Jacob Savage

It was just a total mandate.

I mean, you could quit.

I think that would have been a more respectable, you know, moral position.

Right.

But you wouldn't have worked.

Yeah, I mean, they certainly did kick the door down after them.

And I think the big mistake that sort of everyone

You know, I don't think what I wrote about was like unknown, especially sort of among your audience and more and more right wing people.

Everyone knew this was happening.

But I think that the sort of interesting thing to think about that I don't think had been framed like this was just the cohort like type effect in terms of who was affected.

You know, you could say, I think it's not to say that there were no 50 year old white guys who were affected or there were no 20 year old white guys who were affected.

But I think specifically millennials, like we graduated college really believing that the world was trying to be a fair place.

It's never a completely fair place, but that was trying to be a fair place.

And people are basically going to be judged on who they were and the quality of their work.

And we got disabused of that very quickly.

But yeah, I think people just wait, wait, wait.

Yeah, I think the idea that the answer to past discrimination is present discrimination is just sort of perpetuating this cycle that will not end.

It does not end well.

and i think there was also in some sense a lot of stolen valor among um people my generation who were not white men you know if you're a white woman who graduated college in 2010 i don't think you ever faced real sexism in the workplace you did not grow up in the time of your mother you know you were not like a woman in an office in the 1980s um and the idea that that somehow uh

was still the case in the 2010s was just so like patently false.